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Old 05-10-2010, 03:29 PM   #25
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Originally Posted by flappist
That is because you live in Brisbane.

The world is round and the coast of QLD slopes west.

The closer you get to the equator the less effect the seasons have as the thickness of the atmosphere (as in angle and therefore distance travelled) changes very little.

There is little, if any, twilight north of a couple of hundred km south of the Tropic of Capricorn.

Due to the shape of Australia (look on a globe not a flat map as the projecton model distortion increases the further you are from the equator e.g. Greenland is only 400km wide but looks bigger than Australia) sunrise and sunset are at very different times to the southern areas.
The further north you go the later the sunrise/sunset. Mt Isa is only about 100km east of Adelaide.

So while the city office dwellers and southerners in general love the idea of cool afternoons and long twilights sipping chardonay and pontificating on life, the universe and everything up in the north it is just stinking hot for what appears to be even longer.

Conversley moving the time zones in winter would be better for the northeners as it is cooler and less monsoonal then.

To settle the arguement, why don't we just move the time zone forward 1 hr permanently?

You can have your twilights in summer while we swelter in the stinking heat and monsoons and we can have cool evenings in winter while you freeze your bums off in the dark.........
Thanks for the geography lesson ,flappist, here's me thinking I'd actually learnt something in 16 years of education.
I'm not sure the debate around daylight savings in Queensland ever really intended to reference Adelaide, certainly not Greenland.
Just to show I am not averse to all your argument, I am inclined to agree with you in regards to shifting the time zone forward, and lock it in for all EST .
(If you like, daylight savings all year)
Not sure how many time zones there are across Nth America, I think there are 7 or 8 wheras we have three (not to be accused of referencing other countries but maybe a little more relevant to the debate) so yes ,you are right, longditude time zones are probably more relevant than lattitude time zones.
In terms of time spent in twilight hours ,as at today, Brisbane , Cairns, and Mt Isa have a disparity of a massive 3 minutes.
You are right, I do live in Brisbane, and I am sure (though willing to be shown otherwise) that the majority of people in Queensland live below the Tropic of Capricorn. Thus I reference back to my post, I am not sure why Queenslanders seem to have such a fear of daylight savings.
A lot of manufacturing industries set their own "daylight saving" agenda and turn their clocks appropriately forward, most construction sites throughout Queenslad do similar. Many offices choose to do the same, and it seems to me the people most averse to change are rural Queenslanders ,who seem to work to the sun rise/set pattern anyway, regardless of what the clock says.
I am sympathetic to an argument I used to hear many years ago that the ABC news came on at 7pm regardless of daylight saving or otherwise, and that was the means wherby rural people got their news, but I'm not sure that argument holds too much weight these days.
Other than that, I can't understand why Queenslanders would not want to take advantage of the daylight available to them.
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